On this episode of Clean and Sober Radio, host Gary Hendler and cohost Mark Sigmund discuss a confusing national trend. Some claim that because they are not using their old drugs of choice but using others instead, they are clean and sober. Take for instance, country recording artist Jelly Roll. He claims that because he abstains from cocaine and opiates but smokes weed, he is sober. In some circles it is called "California Sober." Are you really sober when you are using, just not using the drugs that got you high and addicted? That's our discussion on this program.